JWs are quite incapable of applying to themselves the “rules” by which they measure other religions, whether it be criticising doctrinal changes, false prophecies, sweeping wrongdoing under the carpet, or child baptism. Such rules do not apply to them because, as NewChapter said, they have the Truth!
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Baptizing toddlers while critical of infant baptism
by FatFreek 2005 inthere are no less than two (watchtower publications) examples where six year old toddlers have been baptized.
what do you think?.
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JW's just called
by l p inthe jws just called.
they are new to the congregation since i left in 2002/3.. they were offering a dvd for deaf people to 'learn what god requires of me".
i said there were no deaf people here.. the other guy that was just standing there asked if there were deaf people in this area.
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Ultimate Axiom
Jookbeard, you could always go to jw.org and request a bible study....
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20 Questions
by Terry inlet's say there is a new law.. once each year the leader(s) of any religious group have to answer 20 questions in public on tv posed by their critics.. twenty questions are allowed for a one hour presentation.. of course, we would expect softball answers.
except for one thing: the questioner can press a "bullshit" button!.
that would mean the question is repeated and another answer was called for.
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If you’ve ever watched a seasoned politician avoid answering a question you’ll know that you will never get an answer from someone who doesn’t want to give one – even when the answer is a simple as yes or no. One of that species of sub-humans managed to avoid answering such a simple question about twenty times in a TV interview before the interviewer gave up with another question, “so you’re not going to answer the question?” but he didn’t get an answer to that one either. Even a bullshit button won’t help, but it’s still interesting to speculate.
My question would be – In view of the Watchtower’s many failed predictions given in the name of Jehovah, why should we not apply Duet 18:22 to it?
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JW's just called
by l p inthe jws just called.
they are new to the congregation since i left in 2002/3.. they were offering a dvd for deaf people to 'learn what god requires of me".
i said there were no deaf people here.. the other guy that was just standing there asked if there were deaf people in this area.
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Perhaps the WTS just overproduced and have initiated this campaign to unload them.
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Watchtower CD
by NeverKnew inhow does a person (non-jw) outside the organization get this cd the wt publishes?
how much does it cost?.
note: i'm not asking how much it's worth.
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If you can't get hold of the CD you can get most of their books from here;
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Question?
by Ethos infirst of all i'd like to apologize on behalf of my "college dropout" thread.
i intimated it as a humorous and somewhat true form of sattire.
i didn't think people here would take it so seriously and literally.
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Ethos – you have a lot of questions to answer here, so I’ll just repeat the issue that jwfacts has raised, “the ongoing evidence that Holy Spirit is not directing the organisation”. In answering it please explain how an organisation can knowingly misrepresent and lie in attempts to cover over past mistakes? If you need examples use the search facility above, but I would rather not debate examples, just how you can reconcile the lying with "God is Truth".
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Ethos (and all still mentally in): Truth, Tipping Points and Standards
by NeverKnew inif this is "the truth," why has the information provided over the years contained so many errors?
at what point does "error" become "outright lie" for you?
how high (or low) are your standards for your spiritual leaders?
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As Witness My Fury has said, they knowingly teach one thing that they know to be false – that Jerusalem was destroyed by Babylon in 607 BCE. They cannot correct that error because too much else starts unravelling. How can the GB claim God's direction when they KNOW they are teaching falshoods?
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Can you think of ONE teaching of Jehovah Witnesses that hasn't changed since the religion started?
by Unbrainwashed publisher1 inwhith this recent fds and gb debacle i cant think of one teaching that they have not altered since this org began?.
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They have always taught that 1914 is the end of the Gentile Times – admittedly, the significance of what the “end” would mean has changed, but not the end itself. I ronic really considering their reasons for choosing that date are now demonstrably wrong.
And it is not true that they have always taught that Armageddon is coming any day now – before 1914 they always said it will come in 1914.
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A letter from a College Dropout
by Ethos indear harvard university,.
i have decided go leave this institution of education.
let me explain why.
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Oh dear Ethos, I suspect one day you will look back on this silly analogy and cringe with embarrassment.
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"Why bother quoting anything pre-Rutherford since the Society has disavowed any of Russell's writings??"
They haven’t disavowed them entirely, i.e. end of the Gentile Times in 1914. But even if they had disavowed them all, they still try to cover up Russell’s mistakes with deliberately misleading statements that amount to little short of lies. Just a sample of examples where they try to make it appear that Russell taught what JWs teach today;
Awake! January 22, 1973, page 8 - “Jehovah's witnesses pointed to the year 1914, decades in advance, as marking the start of "the conclusion of the system of things."” (decades in advance JWs said 1914 was the end of the time of the end not the start of it).
Revelation its Grand Climax is at Hand (2006) 105 - “Charles Taze Russell and his fellow Bible students realized decades earlier that 1914 would mark the end of the Gentile Times … While they did not in those early days fully understand what this would mean, they were convinced that 1914 was going to be a pivotal date in world history, and they were right.” (Russell thought 1914 would be a hell of lot more than pivotal, and he did fully understand it, he just got it all wrong)
What Does the Bible Really Teach? (2005), pages 84-85 - “When Jesus told his followers to pray, "Let your kingdom come," it was clear that the Kingdom had not come at that time. … There was a waiting period. … During the 19th and 20th centuries, sincere Bible students progressively discerned that the waiting period would end in 1914. World events that began in 1914 confirm that the understanding of these sincere Bible students was correct.” (19 th and early 20 th century Bible students believed the waiting period ended in 1878).